扒车喵新中国的军队是美国在世界上唯一没有战胜的军队，那么他们的实力如何？
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Xiaoming Guo, Born, lived and worked in China.出生、成长、工作都在中国
New China is the only country the SA never won war against it. The SA suppor Chiang Kaishek- during the Civil War and the USA lost China. The U SA led 18 alliances countries across the Yalu River, and was drove back to the 38 parallel duringKorea War. Both the USA and the Soviet supported India in 1962, and India was defeated. The USA fought the Vietcong the Chinese proxy, and lost the Vietnam War. The USA won the WWIl because CCP was fighting will allies. The USA won the cold war because the New China was with the USA. The USA won when it was with the New China. The USA lost when it was against the New China. These are the historical facts, and still will be
新中国是唯—个美国在战争中没有赢过的国家。在中国内战期间,美国支持蒋介石,结果美国失去了中国。在朝鲜战争中,美国带领着它的18个盟友跨过鸭绿江,结果被赶回了38线。1962年,美国和苏联都支持印度,结果印度被中国打败。越南战争中,美国和中国的代理人越共作战,结果输掉了越南战争。美国赢得了第二次世界大战,因为中国共产党和美国一起战斗。美国获得了冷战的胜利,是因为新中国和美国站在一起。当美国和中国站在一起的时候,美国就会赢,当美国和中国对抗的时候,美国就输这些都是历史事实,而且一直都会是历史事实。
Haitong Du, Lived on both sides of the Pacific Ocean.大洋两岸都住过
im gonna try to approach this question from a different direction.When people think of the Chinese mili, or military in general, this is what come into their mind Effective machines that are trained to kill, righ t?Well, notnecessarily The military is not established solely for the purpose of conducting wars, at least not in China.The Chinese military is also highly trained for disaster relief. As an artide from The Diplomat points out, the Chinese military has played the most significant role in resp onding to natural disasters.Domestically, China frequently suffers from earthquakes, floods, land slides, and other natural disasters. As the 2013 whitepaper putit, China’ s armed forces(including the PLA and the paramilitary People’ sArmed Police Force or PAPF)”have always acted as the shock force in emergency rescue and disaster relief” In the past decade, China has placed more of an emphasis on solidifying the organizational and logistical aspects of disaster relief effor ts to ensure a quicker and more robust response. Xinhua noted that the additional focus on HA/DR, including increased drills and spending, paid off with”moreswift and efficient” response to the Yunnan earthquake.When the Chinese people think of the PLA, we often remember them for the sacrifice they’ ve made to save lives during earthquakes and floodsA power ful military doesn’ t have to be strong enough to engage in frequent foreign wars. The ability of saving lives is what makes a military truly power fulI rest my case.
我试着从另一个角度来回答这个问题。当人们想到中国军队,或者说是任何国家的军队时,他们就会想到有效的杀人机器,对吧?嗯,不一定。军队的建立不仅仅是为了打仗,至少在中国不是这样。中国军队在救灾方面也受过很高的训练。正如这位外交官的一篇文章所指出的,中国军队在应对自然灾害方面发挥了最重要的作用。在国内,中国经常遭受地震、洪水、山体滑坡和其他自然灾害。正如2013年的白皮书所指出的,中国军队(包括解放军和武警准军事部队)“在紧急救援和救灾中一直充当着突击队的角色。”中国更加重视救灾工作的组织和后勤保障,确保救灾工作更快、更有力。新华社指出,对医疗救助和灾难恢复的额外关注,包括增加演习和开支,使得在应对云南地震时“更迅速、更有效”。当中国人想到中国人民解放军的时候,我们常常会想起,他们在地震和洪水中为拯救生命所作的牺牲。一支强大的军队,不一定要有足够的力量去频繁地进行对外战争,拯救生命的能力,才是军队真正强大的原因。我的话到此为止。
Kevin Za
Can’ treally tell for now. But they do have very large industrial and production capacities, which would be very importantin the long run. Also, there is very limited in formation, honestly, more is known about the Russian military, or any othermili tary in the world, than the Chinese military. Who knows, maybe they are actu much more power ful than they let onAl though looking at what happened during the Korean War, they managed to achieve a stalemate, which is very good given thatthe technological gap between the Chinese and UN troops were much bigger. This is not to mention there is still an experience gap even back then. And they had fewer supplies as well. The only thing going for them was their numbers. Now they are doing something ab out that technological gap and supply shortages However, one thing is for certain: they are improving very rapidly, both quantity and quality wise.
暂时还不能确定,但它们确实拥有非常强大的工业和生产能力,从长远来看这将非常重要。而且,老实说,相比俄罗斯军队或者世界上任何其他军队,关于中国军队的信息都非常有限谁知道呢,也许他们真的比他们说的要强大得多。纵观朝鲜战争期间的情况,他们还是成功地实现了对峙局面,这是非常好的,因为中国和联合国军队之间的技术差距要大得多。更不用说,在那时候,双方之间的战争经验也有差距,他们的补给也少。唯一有利于他们的,是他们军队中(士兵的)数量,现在他们正在采取措施解决技术差距和供应短缺问题。然而,有一点是肯定的:无论从数量上还是从质量上来看,它们的实力都在迅速提高。
Cedric Chiu, Radar Engineer working on Weapons
Weaker than the USA in most sector (butrapidly catching up in most sector too).Stronger than Russian in many conventional weapon sectors.China only lack behind Russia in Nuclear (due to the Nudear builtup of USSR), Engine technology, Nudear Submarine technology, and probably laser technology.China has the advantage ag ainst Russian in Radar technology, Steal th, Electronic Warfare, Command and Control concep ts, Most Tactical missile system(AA, an ti-ship, anti-tack..etc), Armor Vehicles, Naval Surface Ships(both quantity and qualities)..It is pretty much safe to say, US military is in the league ofits own, China military is in a league ofits own… and Brits/France/Russian/India/ Jap an is far behind comp are to the Top Two.
在大多数领域上,中国军队都比美国弱小(但在大多数领域上,中国也在迅速地赶上)。在很多常规武器领域,中国比俄罗斯强。自然中国在核武器、发动机技术、核潜艇技术以及可能的激光技术方面,都落后于俄罗斯。中国在雷达技术、隐身技术、电子战、指挥控制、大部分战术导弹系统(防空、反舰导弹等)、装甲车、海军水面舰艇(数量和质量)等方面,与俄罗斯相比具有优势。可以肯定地说,美国军队属于一个级别,中国军队是另一个级别,而英国、法国、俄罗斯、印度、日本,则远远落后于前两者。
YewMun Lee
If anyone said China is military powerful country before Korea War, either he is joking or is out of his mind, no one wouldgive a shit to China even they already warned not to cross 37 line, but when China warned US not to cross 17 line in Vietnam,US listened their advise.Even today those so called most advance weapons in China is considered 1 or 2 generation behind of US according towestern standard, but no one would doubt willingness of China going into war when crossing China’ s redline.
如果朝鲜战争前,有人说中国是军事强国,那要么他是在开玩笑,要么就是他疯了,即使中国已经警告(联合国军)不要越过38线时,仍然没有人多看中国一眼但是,当中国警告美国不要在越南越过北纬17度线时,美国听取了他们的建议。即使在今天,按照西方的标准,那些所谓中国最先进的武器,也被认为落后于美国一代或者两代,但没有人会怀疑(当其他国家)越过中国红线时,中国参战的决心。
